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Just a brief note to report that I visited the land of Synergy and I loved your emphasis on ethics.

Incompetent as I am, I wasn't able to reformat one other article I tried to read (lines went on forever, into the Far East of the screen) so I had to withdraw until further notice. I'm doing some additional reading on Mosaic and will eventually be back. (What are you doing with Mosaic ? Can you download , save file to, then open it in text editor, Peter )

Thanks, also, for your offer to post my possible announcement on your page 2. If I ever succeed at putting together the message, I will let you know. (Two of the hardest things for me are deciding what it is I really want to do and selling myself).

Peace Santiago Santiago G. Hileret | Voice/Fax: (718) 858-1324

St. Felix St., #3F | Internet: styago@intercom.com

Brooklyn, NY 11217-1205 U. S. A 3rd World 1st!

I've been thinking about this since you first offered - and I had a sort of vision last night of what I might put together for such a homepage, but I don't think I'm ready to do it quite yet.

I can sure send ideas, but I want to learn this html stuff myself. Do you use any special editor or just Word? The rule-checking editors seem like a worthy concept. (WORD 6 has an free add on called MS Assistant - not very good but works It's not hard LEARN BY DOING I find it has little faults like if you quick save it turns the file into binary and the text is gone ! IF I CAN DO IT ANYONE CAN)

I can accept that if we're going to talk about distance education, and the role of communication in development and so forth, your site is at least an example of how it might be. So if we can get a discussion/ evaluation/ critique going among these various folks (who have been awfully quiet this past week! we could think about a group page! as a demo DE/ constructivist thing.

At this point, I'm not sure it's what the present list is into, though.

But, I thought I asked to be removed from your 'combined' mailings - getting your stuff once is quite enough! -meaning, I'm looking for the *thinking* that drives your 'narrowcast', not the results so much.

kerry khm1@axe.humboldt.edu

From: KC Burgess Yakemovic

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 1995 1:28 PM

To: facgsbates@spock.colsf.edu; patt@squid.tram.com; ROBBINS@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU; rufus@citynet.net; MMCFADDEN%galaxy.gov.bc.ca.pconway@vines.dsd.litton.com; kjb05596@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu; wodonnel@bulldogs.ccsd.k12.co.us; KERNL@hopwood.lynchburg.edu

Cc: Peter Pflaum

Subject: Synergy Web Site, etc.

Hi! Are we the alpha beta testers?

Peter, should we include you in the list? Are there others, I have missed? If there ARE let me or KC know ???

Peter's comment "YES, please include me - GREAT this is beginning to move ??? I am on the pages all the time and I hope they are in better shape This letter will be posted at the bottow of the first page then after a day or so at the top of the news page. Can anyone get the ftp to work ? Instructions on /document/replybt.txt (reply to beta testers) I am working on getting the feedback pages to work so you can just drop off notes, then the notes to be posted automatically, any ideas? Home pages anyone - you can e-mail them as attachments - Ray.htm has a big list under http (top of synergy page two)

My background:

I'm interested in how technology can help people learn and work together better. I've spent 16+ years in the software development world. I've been on the internet over 10 years. I'm new (about 1 year) to Web stuff, but have developed my organization's site (see address below, if interested). I spend way too much time on the net -- at least according to my husband and daughter (age 7). However, my kid _did_ like searching the web for info about dinosaurs to take into school! :-)

Looking forward to hearing from others... Not at all sure what I'm doing here but... :-) THAT's the fun of it all the mystery tour ....

-- kcby

K.C. Burgess Yakemovic Group Performance Systems, Inc.

kcby@gpsi.com http://www.gpsi.com

"Helping people with people, through technology.... because the "soft stuff" is the _hard_ stuff!"

4776 Village North Court phone & fax 770-395-0282

Atlanta GA 30338 USA

GLOBAL VILLAGE TWO link to second page of GVS HOME PAGE GVS Global Village

PONY EXPRESS and the telegraph Smart Schools, Smart Kids DUMB SYSTEMS

PFLAUM Peter's home page BACK to SYNERGY five GO TO OPEN-ME

Page ONE the Starrt Page Page TWO LESSON PLAN

LINK to YAHOO beginners page

I now have my web site up and running, for over a week, on a computer in San Diego, Ca. (TURNPIKE Volant Corp.) The idea is to teach from here to students from everywhere.

I am building a class and am looking for a credit home ?

Any interest within your institution in remote classes ? The class Applied Human Relations is listed with GNA (Global Network Academy - MIT) for Jan.

You could pay me the regular adjunct professor fee per 20 students in a class. I can help recruit students on the INTERNET. They would pay the fees to you, credit or non-credit for Intro. to Social Sciences or Sociology, or other titles that may fit.

I have a textbook-workbook titled "Applied Social Relations" I wrote for these classes. (American Heritage, Custom Publishing Group: Electronic Bookshelf, ISBN 0-8281-0647-9)

The quality of the class can be seen by everyone because the students' work is on the web. It could be graded or evaluated by outside experts. Since it will be open to public on the Web and new students will see what is involved. The first class is a Beta (test) of the content and the web methods.

TO BETA TESTERS:

I am asking for a credit class in Jan: you might think about getting started now for credit later, or ask your local college about a remote class. You learn both content and process.

I have a textbook "Applied Social Relations" for these classes. (American Heritage, Custom Publishing Group: Electronic Bookshelf, ISBN 0-8281-0647-9) Their work can be evaluated by outside experts as it will be on the web. My resume in on the pages.LINK to Full Text

facgsbates@spock.colsf.edu,
patt@squid.tram.com,
ROBBINS@DT3.DT.UH.EDU,
rufus@citynet.net,
kcby@gpsi.com,
MMCFADDEN@galaxy.gov.bc.ca.
kjb05596@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu,
wodonnel@bulldogs.ccsd.k12.co.us,
KERNL@hopwood.lynchburg.edu,

This document is also on the /documents/replybt.txt 
ftp is http://www.wiredbrain.com UNIX standard user pflaump password
synergy see log at bottom of this letter
account # ask 
UNIX standard no firewall or anything special.
log into /public_html/ or just /
You can send me a file or home page attached to a E-mail and I
will post it. Good luck others have not been able to connect.

Good for you to try - it's 204.253.224.47 ftp.turnpike.net user
ASK password 
ASK - I don't think its tied to the IP number.. UNIX format - no
firewall or anything special..account No 815672424 I am using
WS-ftp32 which is a free download Kevin 
kjb05596@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu, (Kevin Belna)
couldn't connect - and I had to try several times with different
FTP programs. It would be most helpful if you could the http
codes I find need a / i.e. etc. or repeat themselves
and word 6 does do that so I have to add the / but does not need
the http://www.wiredbrain.com please keep trying - 
My log
WINSOCK.DLL: Microsoft Windows Sockets Version 1.1.
WS_FTP32 95.07.30, Copyright © 1994-1995 John A. Junod. All
rights reserved.
- -
connecting to 204.253.224.47 ...
Connected to 204.253.224.47 port 21
[3] from 204.189.163.138 port 1058
220 ftp FTP server (Linux ftp 1.2.1 #3 Sun Mar 19 07:45:29 CST
1995 i586) ready.
USER ASK ME
331 Password required for pflaump.
PASS xxxxxx  WRITE AND ASK Pflaump@wiredbrain.com
230 User pflaump logged in.  Access restrictions apply.
CWD /public_html/
250 CWD command successful.
PWD
257 "/public_html/" is current
directory.
Host type (I): UNIX (standard)
[4] going to listen 204.189.163.138 port 1058
PORT 204,189,163,138,4,35
200 PORT command successful.
[4] listener 0.0.0.0 port 1059
LIST 
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
[4] Socket closed.
[5] accept from 204.253.224.47 port 20
Received 6486 bytes in 4.3 secs, (14.52 Kbps), transfer succeeded
[5] Socket closed.
[3] looking for completion line
226 Transfer complete.

Date: Fri., 24 Nov. 1995 22:53:36 -0500

From:LitLucy@aol.com

To:pflaump@netctrl.com

"The only way to learn is by doing, not studies, not plans, not committees, not consultants, but hands on doing and now, because other are not waiting. "

Peter : comments

"Exactly, last year a PPP may have cost $20,000 then $2,000 then $200. It now comes with Windows 95. By the time plans are made they are out of date. Netscape now does newsgroups and mail. I discovered that Netscape 2b does http connections right on the mail. They will have FTP so you can edit right on the Web page. After all the page in your cache, edit it and ftp back to site. Now I have to edit in Word 6 (or front-page) and ftp it back to my site. as I am doing right now We will have real time BBS, and will connect to real time Chat (IRC) with I-phone and real radio.

A group can look at the document (graph, graphic) make comments to each other and work together. This is the idea of the interactive office or classroom.

For now, You can E-mail me TEXT (DOS) or WP or Word text if you don't have a hypertext editor (free download with WP (doesn't work) or MS Word 6, (doesn't do Netscape 3) and send your pages as attachment to E-mail. See RAY's links at the top of synergy page two for link to information on HTTP editors. Then I will put it in http://www.wiredbrain.com lucy.txt and put a link on the home page VISIT LUCY'S Class."

Back to Lucy.s letter:

I have been teaching community college classes on-line for five years now. Chemeketa Community College now has an AA degree via modem.

We are not trying to do correspondence courses - we have those. These modem classes includes class discussions, group projects, papers, labs, etc. We are using the medium not vice versa.

Currently, my class is the subject of a Ph.D. dissertation to study the learning community and interactions in an on-line class. CMC (Computer Mediate Communication) has been around for a while, but everyone has been so busy trying to do the research on whether or not this is better that face to face classes, that little has been written about the actual classes and those of us who are "doing it". The point is not is it better, but only that it is a different delivery mode.

I am also teaching a class for faculty to learn how to teach on-line. This class is for the Open University in Vancouver, BC. I live in Oregon. In my back bedroom, I get on the internet and use client software to go to class in Canada! ;-)

Lucy Tribble MacDonald Chemeketa Community College

Lancaster DR NE 503/399-5038 FAX litlucy @aol.com That was to have my sig on the end. :) but it gets mixed up on the http text ...(save this page - fix it and e-mail it back to me)

From: Saint Julie School System

stjulie@tlcnet.muohio.edu

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 1995 9:54 AM

To: Peter Pflaum

Subject: Your free beta tester

I have looked at your page several times and I guess I am just not sure what you are doing.

Peter's comment: Nor do I, this is my first time. I had a web-master but now am on my own. We are learning by doing and it will take shape in the process.

I looked at Lucy's url you sent and it is not found. (Peter: You know systems are up and down - I think Volant is stable and very reasonable, when you enter go to up diectory and there you are in Wiredbrain)

From Lucy's message, I am assuming you are looking for higher education. I am trying to find ways that education will use this medium not to do the same things. I am trying to have the students look at what can happen and stretch their ideas to ways we can excite our faculty. I see many jumping on this as a way to do the same things they have always done. I do not know the answer but if we just turn it into electric information we miss much of what it can be.

----------

From: KC Burgess Yakemovic

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 1995 1:28 PM

To: facgsbates@spock.colsf.edu; patt@squid.tram.com; ROBBINS@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU; rufus@citynet.net; MMCFADDEN%galaxy.gov.bc.ca.pconway@vines.dsd.litton.com; kjb05596@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu; wodonnel@bulldogs.ccsd.k12.co.us; KERNL@hopwood.lynchburg.edu

Cc: Peter Pflaum

Subject: Synergy Web Site, etc.

Hi! Are we the alpha beta testers?

Peter, should we include you in the list? Are there others, I have missed? If there ARE let me or KC know ???

Peter's comment "YES, please include me - GREAT this is beginning to move ??? I am on the pages all the time and I hope they are in better shape This letter will be posted at the bottow of the first page then after a day or so at the top of the news page. Can anyone get the ftp to work ? Instructions on /document/replybt.txt (reply to beta testers) I am working on getting the feedback pages to work so you can just drop off notes, then the notes to be posted automatically, any ideas? Home pages anyone - you can e-mail them as attachments - Ray.htm has a big list under http (top of synergy page two)

My background:

I'm interested in how technology can help people learn and work together better. I've spent 16+ years in the software development world. I've been on the internet over 10 years. I'm new (about 1 year) to Web stuff, but have developed my organization's site (see address below, if interested). I spend way too much time on the net -- at least according to my husband and daughter (age 7). However, my kid _did_ like searching the web for info about dinosaurs to take into school! :-)

Looking forward to hearing from others... Not at all sure what I'm doing here but... :-) THAT's the fun of it all the mystery tour ....

-- kcby

Burgess Yakemovic Group Performance Systems, Inc.

kcby@gpsi.com http://www.gpsi.com

"Helping people with people, through technology.... because the "soft stuff" is the _hard_ stuff!"

Village North Court phone & fax 770-395-0282

Atlanta GA 30338 USA